Robust-to-training model organisms for assistant-persona / EM work (Redwood advice)
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Source: my-goat Todoist capture 2026-05-29T03-00-05_todoist-6gjpW77W8QrfMcVv_advice-for-making-better-backdoors-in-assistant-pe.md
Redwood Research, "Advice for making robust-to-training model organisms":
https://blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/advice-for-making-robust-to-training
Idea
Digest Redwood's advice on building model organisms whose inserted behavior survives subsequent safety / capability training, and apply it to the assistant-persona model organisms we build for the EM-defense track. Right now our backdoored / misaligned-persona organisms (evil-assistant, villain-persona, fragile-instrumental-alignment in 5.4) are constructed ad hoc; we don't have a principled checklist for making the inserted behavior robust to the post-training we then throw at it (DPO, Tulu SFT, identity-anchoring SDF).
Deliverable: a short methodology note / checklist in the model-organism design docs capturing the transferable techniques, plus a list of which of our existing organisms (5.4, 5.7, 5.9) would change if we adopted them.
Why it matters here
- Several Part 5 experiments hinge on "does the inserted property survive training?" (5.4 instrumental fragility, 5.9 capability-gating survival under EM, 5.11 midtrain matrix). If our organisms aren't robust-to-training by construction, a negative result is confounded with "the organism was just weak," not "the defense worked."
- Directly relevant to the persona-controllability framing: a robust backdoor in the assistant persona is the adversarial dual of a robust persona-steering intervention.
Open questions
- Which of Redwood's techniques (trigger design, data composition, training-order tricks, redundant encoding) transfer to a persona backdoor vs a token-trigger backdoor?
- Can we measure "robustness to training" as a first-class property of our existing organisms (evil-assistant, villain) and report it alongside the defense results?
- Does making the organism more robust-to-training make EM-defense results more or less informative? (Stronger organism = harder test of the defense.)
Next step
Reading + extraction task. Someone reads the Redwood post, writes the checklist, and tags the Part 5 subtasks that would change. No compute required for step 1.