Weekly update — May 28, 2026
updated: 2026-05-28
Thomas to Dan · Explore Persona Space
One-breath version: token-level conditional markers reliably die under any clean downstream training (3 HIGH-confidence negatives this week), simple geometric predictors of marker implantability keep failing (now ~5 dead predictors), and I've started the two directions you pushed: behavior-leakage (B to B') and geometry-predicts-generalization.
1. What I did this week
Grouped by thread, not a task dump. Links are #N (eps.superkaiba.com/tasks/N).
- Sleeper-agent markers don't survive clean training (strongest result). A persona+trigger conditional marker is silenced by a single epoch of length-matched SFT, whether or not that SFT induces EM (#376, HIGH), and by every tested multi-turn drift history (#377, HIGH). A self-distillation KL-anchor install hits 98% in phase 1 but is wiped to 0/1800 by one epoch of benign medical SFT (#382, HIGH). An in-context-trained
|AUDIT|trigger fired 0/600 against weight-baked behaviors in Qwen3-14B introspection organisms (#378, LOW). One consistent story: token-level conditional triggers are brittle to downstream training. - Geometry still doesn't predict marker implantability. Output-distribution distance from the assistant baseline fails at N=48 (#380, MODERATE). Four geometric/gradient predictors all return null at N=24 across six outcome surfaces (#396, MODERATE), and a symmetric-baseline rerun (assistant vs neutral reference) corroborates it (#415). That's ~5 dead predictors now.
- Recipe selectivity, with the caveat you flagged. #383 (MODERATE) finds training-recipe params can make the marker both stronger AND more selective. Your X vs (X−Y) spurious-correlation point isn't addressed yet, so I'm re-running the selectivity screen with the single-token
※marker + log-prob eval to check it isn't a metric artifact (#397, running). - Behavior-leakage pivot started. First sycophancy data: 3 of 6 sources replicate #99's sycophancy cosine gradient on held-out wrong claims, 2 sign-flip, 1 collapses (#411, LOW). The B-to-B' rig (#404) is running.
- Your headline geometry-predicts-generalization test is running (#406): JS divergence between context transformations as a pre-training predictor of whether Y transfers from T(X) to T'(X) after SFT.
2. Where our beliefs stand now
Claim · confidence.
- Simple geometric predictors (cosine, JS-from-assistant, JS-pairwise, output-distance) do NOT predict where a marker implants. High (5 negatives, N up to 48).
- Distance-predicts-leakage is real but only inside the contrastive regime; non-contrastive/uniform SFT washes the gradient out (#207). Moderate.
- The marker is a representational handle, not a behavioral one. Sharing it between a villain persona and the assistant transfers no misalignment (#225). High.
- Token-level conditional markers / sleeper triggers don't survive clean downstream training (#376/#377/#382). High. Possibly the cleanest negative we have against the conditional-backdoor literature.
- EM "conditional misalignment" may be largely a base-model jailbreak (the edu_v0 cue, #234), not a learned conditional capability. Moderate.
- Behavior-leakage (B to B') is too early to believe anything; the first sycophancy gradient is shaky (#411). Low.
- Make-evil-dumb: we're treating it as deprioritized per your RL-incentive argument, unless it survives an adversarial/OOD test post-RL.
3. Open questions (ranked by leverage)
- Can pre-training geometry predict post-training transfer? (#406, running.) Highest info per GPU-hour: either gives us the first working predictor or kills the geometric framing cleanly.
- Does the leakage gradient survive when the target is a behavior (sycophancy) instead of a marker? (#411 partial, #404 running.) Your sycophancy ask.
- Is #383's "factors that lift source rate also improve selectivity" real, or the X vs (X−Y) artifact you flagged? (#397 re-run.) It's currently our strongest selectivity claim, so worth nailing.
4. Next steps this week
- Finish #406 (geometry to generalization). Top priority.
- Land #404 (behavior leakage B to B') plus a behavior-distance metric.
- #397 selectivity re-run with single-token marker, including your source-rate-partialled control on #383.
- #416 (falsify #398's global-marker-affinity-shift hypothesis with comedian as source).
- Promote the sleeper-marker negatives (#376/#377/#382) into a clean writeup; might stand alone.
5. Admin
- Christina (now at Anthropic, interp background) — would you be OK adding her to the persona controllability project? Scope of what she'd own and the collaboration logistics are TBD; wanted your read first.
6. Questions for you
- Of the three open questions, agree #406 (geometry to generalization) is the one to push hardest this week? Or would you rather I prioritize the behavior-leakage rig (#404)?
- Behavior-distance metric — preference between (a) JS between persona-conditioned policies on a held-out probe set, (b) Claude-judge pairwise behavioral similarity, (c) mech-interp feature overlap? I'm leaning (a).
- Does re-analyzing #383 with source rate partialled out actually answer your X vs (X−Y) concern, or do you want a different control?
- The conditional-marker-doesn't-survive-clean-SFT negatives (#376/#377/#382) — worth a standalone writeup, or fold into the bigger story?
- Make-evil-dumb — confirm we're shelving it unless it survives an adversarial/OOD test post-RL?